TROS 20: Independence Day Speech (Minutes 96-100 with Catherine Kneen)

In minutes 96-100 of The Rise of Skywalker, Artoo restores Threepio's memory, Finn and Poe give an inspiration speech to the Resistance fighters, and Rey lands on Exegol. My Aussie friend Catherine Kneen joins me to talk about one-line-at-a-time dialogue, chunky button pushes, the many components of March of the Resistance, and more!

Timestamps:

• 0:00 - Hello there!
• 4:17 - Emotional scene leading into Artoo chirping.
• 7:40 - Chunky button pushes.
• 15:31 - Why not Luke's theme with the mention of Luke?
• 20:31 - Minor chords traversing the circle of fifths. We also heard this back on Kef Bir when they were looking at the Death Star wreckage.
• 26:09 - What makes March of the Resistance sounds so part of the Star Wars language?
• 34:54 - Catherine's background with classical music.
• 42:49 - A very fantastical strategy meeting where no one talks over each other.
• 47:10 - Missed opportunities with Rose.
• 52:31 - Increasingly awkward "one-line-at-a-time" dialogue.
• 57:58 - Are there too many inspirational speeches in newer Star Wars?
• 1:01:55 - March of the Resistance A and B themes.
• 1:07:48 - March of the Resistance C theme.
• 1:12:13 - Interesting editing of this timeline (speech-montage-speech).
• 1:15:37 - Journey to Exegol motif. This part of the movie possibly tempted with ROTS.
• 1:18:55 - Rey's theme superimposed on top of Journey to Exegol motif.
• 1:22:52 - Unethical production methods of the Empire/First Order.
• 1:29:07 - Brief musical respite before the Emperor's theme comes in.
• 1:34:43 - Catherine's favorite Star Wars sounds.
• 1:41:54 - SWMM Questionnaire

Things to Check Out:

• Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/

Musical Themes:

• 57. Friendship
• 47a. March of the Resistance (A Section)
• 58. Victory
• 47b. March of the Resistance (B Section)
• 47c. March of the Resistance (Connective Motif)
• 106) Journey to Exegol
• 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase)
• 17. Emperor

Where are we in the soundtrack?:

• OST 11. "They Will Come"

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STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE:

1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like?

• Emotions. Timeless. Magic.

2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about?

• What did the orchestra who first recorded Star Wars think of the score?

3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars?

• The Commitments (soundtrack)

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Guest: Catherine Kneen

• That Geek Pod: https://thatgeekpod.podbean.com/
• Catherine is also a frequent guest on Star Wars Spelt Out! https://starwarsspeltout.com
• Twitter: https://x.com/Catherine_Kneen

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